Do you believe in the supernatural? (plus other mumbojumbo)

It's been a little quiet so i thought i'd start a new thread.

My girlfriend and i had a little rowel tonight over this topic. I don't believe in the supernatural as well as other things like by chance knowing when something bad is going to happen to someone or when females who are really close (as friends i mena) have their periods align (yes she used that as an example). My girlfriend on the other hand does believe in this (kinda) and it caused quite a stir. I used logic to counter her argument and it was a constant argument of if's, ands or buts on her behalf. It was frustrating to say the least cos it was so generalised-.-

so what do you think? is it real or a crock of shit?

I'm 50 50.
Some of the shit people say sounds absolute bullshit, but then their are some documentaries I have seen about the supernatural that seemed real. Just a matter of opinion.

all bollocks
the supernatural, religion, ufo's, ghosts and everything else is all shit.

Haha me and the mrs have had this type of debate to...

But shes more into believing in psychics
And I am not..

Apparently her aunt does the card reading and read/sense the future stuff, and she must have bought the mrs up with it, because she belives in it 2 far...

to me, i call them, an experienced estimate'r HAH...

Yeah not really, but it sure makes for good cinema and books!

Yes and No for me.
I know there is alot of stuff we as a species do not know. This applies alot to things like psychics. I definitely believe in our intuitive abilities, how & why this works I donot.
Things like card reading is more chance, and our minds 'make believe' its legit to satisfy the belief and fill the gaps. Same for horoscopes. Generic readings that comprise of 80% common happenings, our mind says its real. (Think "You will mean an attractive stranger", "You'll wish you stayed in bed today" well duh.)

Period synchronisation is more a biological, chemical based reaction that can be tied back to hormones/endocrine system. That, I believe is possible.

UFO's - Maybe. I find it difficult to believe we're the only intelligent living creature in this vast, vast universe. Whether or not they've been here, or could find us, or even give a rats about us, I donot know.

I believe Religion is a system of control. Nothing more. Believe whatever you want.

Ghosts, maybe, see the first point about not knowing everything. But probably not. Mind you, if you've ever had an "experience" I'm sure you would.

I'm a scientist (by education) so I need proof to believe something. I rely heavily on logic. If it can't be proved then it probably doesn't exist.

Hmm, i don't dismiss all of it. Ghosts and card reading and all that crap i do not believe. Mainly because it is ridiculous and there is no way it could be done. More often then not you find that only a certain few can experience it under certain circumstances at certain times. when you get to the point where only some people can experience these events it becomes too unreliable and is usually shit. If something can be proven 100% of the time no doubt i'll believe it. When i comes down to generalisations including if's, ands or buts then i don't believe it.

Things like UFO's i can understand but i do not believe there has been a legitimate siting. It all seems too cliché when there are sitings and only 1/2 people claim to have seen them. not to say one day we won't find life, but i don't think we've seen aliens here on earth

I think the whole thing is annoying because i keep finding the argument is like religion (sorry to anyone who believes but this is my point of view). When people say that the supernatural is real but have no proof, there isn't a whole lot to stand up on. Science is continuously proving things and is making them part of day to day life. Religion is based on a book written many hundreds of years after the death of christ and makes no sense. When your argument hasn't got any foundations to stand on and your only comeback is that "you can't prove it's not real" i think you've hit a brick wall. The supernatural is the same as this, while you can use science and logic to explain odd events, the reply back is "yeah, but there is alway a possibility that it's not caused by science and it's the supernatural".

you'll have to wait till you die gasman, then post again.

wottagunn wrote:all bollocks
the supernatural, religion, ufo's, ghosts and everything else is all shit.

Thank-you. I have been saying for years The Bible is the biggest fiction novel of all time.

If you believe Jesus can turn Water to wine (without the use of a soda stream) then you're an idiot

haha

you have to love the people that claim to have been abducted by UFO's.
And that shit makes the news

I do not believe in supernatural anything. I love the shows and books though.
Greek mythology is the best.

@gas re: religion -
I know you weren't possibly intending to be so blunt, but you shouldn't look at religion so negatively.
Religion is about hope. That is all it is about.
Hope that there is something better after this life.
I love the morals and guidelines that religions set out, it makes the world a better place.

If half the population of the planet weren't religious, then stealing, killing, heck, even general bullying would be more prevalent.
Religions help develop consciences.
Parenting could do a better job, but there are too many shite parents out there. Luckily a lot of shite parents still force their kids to go to church.

So basically I'm saying you shouldn't argue with people about belief, it's their choice. It doesn't affect you in any way.




Side note: One of my favourite sayings of all time comes from a religion. It's Buddhism I think?

"Existence is suffering"

wottagunn wrote:all bollocks
the supernatural, religion, ufo's, ghosts and everything else is all shit.

Couldn't of said it any better

Okay, away from the religion, We all agree that the supernatural is rubbish? (most of us)

100% garbage

garbage.